No female temple holders. Every religion in the world pretty much tolerates you, it's pretty stable, and you can marry back into it to acquire bloodlines if you leave it somewhere to grow by itself. The reformed Pagan religions are usually pretty nice. Unyielding: This would be my number one if I had to chose. Acquiring the faith to begin with requires you to convert religions or use Ruler Designer, and its holy sites are split up between the Italia, Britannia, Spain, Francia, and Maghreb. For best run: The High Chieftess of Kiev in 769 reforming Slavic to be Enatic Clans is a stupidly fun run that I've been doing a lot of. When I started writing this tier list I wanted to put all natures in one tier, but realised I have never really used dogmatic and proselytizing because they feel lackluster to me. You have to get a popemon or autocephaly for it though. Traits inherited from unreformed religion. Ruler does not receive opinion penalties for raised vassal levies. 867 enatic bloodline,African religion for consorts, cosmopolitan for husbands, syncretic to remove penalties, divine marriage so you can seduce and cosort acquire bloodlines, autonomous for a floating Dynasty opinion, fertility, or another +10 religion modifier. For example, if you want to paint the map, pick Temporal and use GHW. Concubines not allowed. Most pagan faiths permit female temple holders regardless of gender law; exceptions are noted below. You don't lose vassal opinion anyway when you raid, so the defense + morale + garrison bonus are insane compared to what you get from other doctrines (peaceful is pretty good too, i guess). The only issue is there is a bug (Snow Crystal pretty much confirmed it's a bug). Crusader Kings II. Answered, CK2 (Crusader Kings II): Immortality Event ID and Guide, CK2 (Crusader Kings II): Strange Chest Item and Event Results. Followers 0. Example: Your sister matri marries some guy from Ashina dynasty, they have a daughter for example, all you have to do is to matri marry her to your male heir. No male in the council. The only realm following this faith is the Zunbil Satrapy in western Afghanistan. The new reformation system allows players to build their religion for their preferred play-style and to combine incompatible characteristics. Suomenusko retains a sizable number of provinces throughout the game and it is very easy to put the fear of Ukko to other religions, whether you start in 769, 867 or 1066. When I ran a Muslim realm with a capital in Marrekech, and put 1 castle, 1 city, and 5 mosques there, I felt like I was the most powerful guy in the world. Totally fine for religions without 30% levy bonus, but if you want to expand then other natures are better. Penalty to moral authority (-15%) and to mission. Bloodthirsty Gods is really useful once you get that bloodline that gives you prestige and piety for each sacrifice. Cosmopolitan: I used it once, its fun, allows us to snatch some alliances with infidel neighbours, or non-aggro pacts with infidel vassals. Romuva does not disappear from the world at any starting date, but will eventually be pushed back by Christians. Rurik Rurikid, Petty King of Holmgarr in 867, is the historical founder of the Russian Empire. Eldership succession law is allowed. It was the first game where I gave any titles to my family. I was new to HF just like everyone else and I had no idea what the end result would be. This gives me some new options to consider. - can ask the leader of this realm to help convert the tribal leader's realm to the organized religion.Benefactor needs to be non-tribal, non-nomadic, non-theocracy (so you can't ask Pope for mass conversion . No male in the council. It's aimed at more of the casual/intermediate player. ( But Imperial Succession is nearly same as heir designation so you may want to pick the Religious tax doctrine to get tons of cash. It's a bit of a challenge but shouldn't be too much for any player with a bit of experience. Sky Burials. Tengri and Aztec pagans do not have defensive attrition (though Tengri invaders can ignore it). Also you can give away the title, the best way would probably be as a viceroyalty. Partially redundant with Children of Perun doctrine. If you have tribal government, it is recommended to choose either Agnatic Clans or Enatic Clans doctrine to avoid Gavelkind succession law. However, the religion's holy sites are scattered far and wide making reformation very hard. If you want to play tall/stable, Peaceful is often better. Others have concvinced me that Hellenic is the best overall. Holy Fury Pagan Reformation Tier List & Discussion, Holy Ghost Spirit isnt being talked about enough, Both my character and Christianity are based. This shows another bonus from raiding culture; with the combination of Equality and concubinage, kidnapping male princes also allows for strong claims for heirs on raided lands, and the prestige of having noble male consorts for female rulers. Pagans being attacked in a holy war by Christians or Muslims may choose to save their realms and end the war by accepting the faith of the invaders. it isnt meant to be celtic pagan or any pagan religion in particular. In 800 CE. Sacrificing prisoners unlocks special traits, actions, and a bloodline that grants Prestige for sacrifices as well. Edit: I have recommended a combination that gives u an ultra stable realm but if you want to expand and get the SPQR achievement, then pick the Unyielding doctrine and Temporal leadership instead. No penalty for female ruler. Duke-tier religious heads common for all realms. Defining features in-game: Low-tech non-pagans have very low Supply Limit in Pagan counties. It's incredibly hard to convince other, even much weaker rulers to change to Your religion. I haven't tried Perun+Daring, I wonder if it would give pirate trait. +5% Morale of armies. You are using an out of date browser. To help in the struggle against unbelievers, each reformed faith gets a single holy order. Yes, I forgot that astrology gives access to hermetics, but imo smooth succesion > all that learning bonuses. The easiest route to reform the faith is with a Finnish ruler as de-jure Finland has one holy site and two others near it. Unyielding is a must for small Pagan surrounded by powerful Abrahamic realms. Once your account is created, you'll be logged-in to this account. AI rulers only try to convert provinces if zealous Despite similarities between autonomous reformed paganism and Dharmic religions (followers of both has religious branch trait), the former still needs to deal with heresy (old pagan religion), while the latter has no heresies. With Divine Marriage and Hierocratic leader as a vassal, you can repeatedly divorce and marry the same close relative, each time gaining free money or prestige, and piety. Seabound is just useless without Daring and picking these two doctrines is silly (unless we are not getting bored with constant raiding on our foes). I always found piety to be very uselful here, excommunication is a very powerful tool if you use it strategically. What, in your opinion, is the best photograph? Patron Deities, Ancestor Worship. They can easily convert provinces by pillaging every holding in a province. Zunist mechanics are a hybrid of defensive/offensive pagans and organized religions. However, other rulers will have a choice. Standard stuff for defensive pagans. Two mutually exclusive bloodlines can be created by this process. What, in your opinion, is the best aim training? Best one in the loser tier. This attrition only applies in provinces of the same religion as their ruler, so Germanic pagans won't lower their enemies' supply limits in Slavic territory. The Slavic faith is followed, as the name suggests, by the Slavic peoples of Europe. With the Holy Fury expansion, requirements for reformation remain unchanged, but the player may select four "traits" for religion, which affects the set of available mechanics for the religion and provides various bonuses. Levy size & attack bonus from unreformed Tengri faith will be lost. Before patch 3.0, Hellenic paganism also fell into this category. Reformed religions gain access to holy wars, usable on any target of a different faith (including other pagans). Can proselytize in pagan capital even when tribal or nomad. Blood sacrifices is super fun, esp. The pagan homeland attrition penalty does not function, however, against other unreformed pagans. Incompatible with Eternal Riders and Invaders doctrines. If a king of a faith stays true to the old ways, and many vassals convert to the new religion, this can cause tremendous upheaval in a nation, and lead to multiple, simultaneous and devastating deep revolts. Moral Authority edit Main article: Moral authority Norse: Cultural one, then either agnatic, stability or blood sacrifices, depending on playstyle. Raiding unavailable if culture doesn't allow raiding.Hunting focus is unavailable.Holy wars and great holy wars are unavailable, but county conquest CB is available.Dueling comes with a Piety cost.Cannot create warrior lodge if it does not already exist.AI rulers will not convert provinces. Foreign rulers will sometimes send missionaries. He is a culturally Norse Germanic pagan but has a Slavic son. Matrilineal marriages are disabled. This faith is exceptionally limited - it has all the disadvantages of unreformed paganism and none of the benefits, nor can it be reformed. There's a mod that fixes this. Recommended Posts. If dawnbreakers would have divine marriage paired with something else than polygamy it would be tier 1. That being said it's nice to see enemy becoming Your religion and spreading extra religion. Crusader Kings II. ), creating negative synergy (though you can combine Unyielding with Animistic but dont cause Animistic is awful). Although I admit the bloodline bugs with male consorts are beyond annoying. This discussion is purely about game mechanics. And you can make a chain of your demesne inside the silk trade route. Also for flavour. If there is levy size & attack bonus from unreformed religion or morale bonus from Animistic doctrine in the first doctrine slot, it is lost. Prisoners of different religions can be sacrificed for Piety. Unlocks Raiding if unavailable (e.g. Animistic has same problems as unrelenting, it gives rite of passage event when reaching adulthood which has some flavour. Pagans follow the old polytheistic traditions, spurning the Abrahamic and Indian religions' talk of a segregation between physical and spiritual realms in favor of polytheistic physical gods.. Pagan non-nomads normally requires the Old Gods or Holy Fury DLC to be playable. Civilised is closer to tier 3 than tier 1, if we pick this doctrine as Roman Emperor we will never use its full potential as we are locked in Imperial Elective succession. Priests cannot marry and cannot inherit. Hellenic). Characters are assigned Zodiac traits on birth and by decision. However, by 1337, only two chiefs in northern Finland/Sweden follow the faith, with the rest of Finno-Ugric lands being divided between Catholic/Orthodox Christians and the Sunni Golden Horde. Tengri, worship of the Sky Father, is the religion of the Steppe and the bulk of its followers are nomads, whose lands stretch from Danube to Mongolia. AI rulers only convert same-group provinces and only when zealous. Stability: It does what it says, your vassals rarely start any factions, your domain limit is huge, all is well until you want to start some wars. The selection of Leadership style determines the type of religious head. I usually take unyielding but in the future I think I'll go with Proselytizing. Crusader Kings is a historical grand strategy / RPG video game series for PC, Mac, Linux, PlayStation 5 & Xbox Series X|S developed & published by Paradox Interactive. Rulers can order subject to Take the Vows. AI looter prefer coastal counties. But, aside from Germanic/Zun, they are identical, except for slightly different flavor text and Slavic "Jarilo" event. It requires either control of three holy sites and 50% moral authority, or control of all five holy sites. Only if I could mark "Helpful" multiple times Is making your concubine who was a "raid-captured daughter of enemy duke" your vassal queen, and then murdering her an exploit? More posts you may like r/CrusaderKings Join 3 days ago CK2 6.4K 103 r/CrusaderKings 5 days ago Only disadvantage is that AI rulers will never convert counties but you can do that yourself). Also offsets short reign. AI rulers will only convert same-group provinces Choosing you own heir and not receiving penalty opinion for raised levies it too good to pass up. Holy sites: Novgorod (shared with Suomenusko), Kiev, Plock, Birlad, and Rugen (shared with Romuva). Also unrelenting is heavily underrated. "Offensive" pagans get a bonus to their levy size (+30% levy size for Germanic, for example). Community Patch with Improved Genetics 2.0 and Other Mods, Pagan Ancestor and Sea King Bloodline Changes, https://ck2.paradoxwikis.com/Bloodline#Ancestor_Veneration_Bloodlines. Note that Germanic pagans have as a holy site the county of Braunschweig, and taking that county will trigger the Catholic crusades (as well as the formation of every Catholic Holy Order but the Knights Templar) at the time that you take Braunschweig, so long as the year is 900 and the province is Christian. Ancestor Worship. Cairo is distant and usually controlled by major Muslim powers. And isn't Civilized like a dream? No Revolt Risk for different religion in county. But you're right, in some situations it's really powerful. Rulers who are neither at war, nor raiding, nor bound by an active truce lose a significant amount of prestige per month. Great work!!! AI rulers only try to convert provinces if zealous. Access to Hermetic society. Bn (Bon) is an indigenous religion of the Tibetan plateau, added in patch 2.8. In my game as a Zunist multi-emperor, I reformed with Warmongering, so conversion is very slow (maybe 20 provinces are converted, whereas I controlled half of the map), but that doesn't bother me : revolts are rare, and my vassals are converting them bit by bit. Crusader Kings is a historical grand strategy / RPG video game series for PC, Mac, Linux, PlayStation 5 & Xbox Series X|S developed & published by Paradox Interactive. You must log in or register to reply here. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Haruspicy and Astrology effects. I feel it is a waste of slot and good for role play only. However, it only applies to the homeland, and pagans have difficulty converting provinces due to low. Crusader Kings 2 ; Best Pagan mods for CK2 Best Pagan mods for CK2. I never tried Astrology and Haruspicy, I think they have the same amount of events as bloodthirsty gods, but I have yet to try them. Expect frequent raids and wars between realms that accept the new faith and those that reject it. The Zunists are unique in that they are somewhat of a hybrid of the Offensive and Defensive; generic Paganism grants no bonuses. Can you achieve fame and fortune for your noble family, or will your names be forgotten to history? Certain pagans have access to additional succession laws. Nature: Peaceful ( you will rule a massive empire as a Roman and will mostly have Vassal Kings. Ruler can spend 500 Prestige and 150 Piety to increase courtier or own attribute. The Germanic reformer becomes the Fylkir, a ducal-level secular leader similar to an Islamic Caliph. Meritocracy seems like the best non unique doctrine to me. Some other day I read that this isn't a bug and it's working as intendent IMO Enatic is much, much better than Agnatic, because Agnatic prevents you from matri marrying, which means any chance to get a non-crafted bloodline is over, and because there are immensely more targets for matriarchal deposition than there is for the opposite. To even start thinking about CK2s Pagan Reformation, you will first need to conquer three of the holy sites of your religion. Also Temporal gives u cool(gives tons of piety and prestige per month) lvl 4 artifact . Holding the Blood Games in the Grand Amphitheater grants an additional 200 Prestige. Thats all for now! Sorry for the confusion. I used autonomous most often which gives some flat bonuses. The other pagan faiths have a duke-level religious leader who becomes a vassal of the reforming ruler, similar to the Orthodox religion's patriarch. The African faith is followed by the peoples of sub-Saharan Africa. Meritocracy does have a major downside in that you can only designate your children, making it difficult to get your genius strong nephew on the throne or skip a generation. Warmongering: I think most of us are familiar with it, because unreformed Germanics and Tengri have it. Engage in courtly intrigue, dynastic struggles, and holy warfare in medival Europe, North Africa, the Middle East, India, the steppes and Tibet. I mean making the enemy duke your vassal king through external inheritance? Also without Proselytizing my own vassals never bothered to spread their own religion. Full status of woman law is enforced. AI rulers will only convert same-group provinces. Unyielding also reduces AI aggressiveness, which can be a negative if you want your AI vassals to attack/invade your enemies for you. Holy sites: Nishapur, Bost, Cairo, Kabul, and Multan. I'm still mad how badly Shia got shafted over the development of the game. Uuugghhh. Rulers do not receive opinion penalties for raised vassal levies. In game terms, reformed pagans no longer face the restrictions on crown authority, succession, independence wars and conversion that other pagans do. Rulers can choose to gain sympathy with another faith by decisions. if you raid a lot + capture bonus from society + capture bonus from the military trait. Have fun dealing with retaining those. Hinduism is solid with the early Holy Order, morale buff, patron deities and raiding but they lack any inheritance/realm management perks. Christianity, Islam, Eastern religions, reformed pagan faith, etc. Sometimes simple solutions are the best. I admit I have not played Hellenic yet but it sounds awesome to me. You must log in or register to reply here. For hellenic rome, warmongering, unrelenting, civilized and im not sure about the last one since the pontifex maximus was not very strong in his authority, having powers like fixing the calendar. With Holy Fury, Zunists can raid after reformation, as long as the reformed faith does not have the Peaceful nature. Combined with not paying any penalty for raising their vassals' levies, this means offensive pagans can muster forces far beyond what their technological levels would suggest. The faith is widespread in early starting dates, and some of the realms, such as Croatia, are already feudal rather than tribal. Nature: Unyielding sounds good on paper, but if you plan on having a large realm I'm not sure it's great because it takes a long time for counties to change to your religion. but i'm talking about game mechanics here, compared to Catholicism, Orthodoxy in-game has nothing unique really, hell, it didn't even have it's own Holy Order till recently. The first thing you will choose is one Nature. Agnatic, stability are very safe options, but with the ship tech boost i always manage to kidnap one of "Niall of the 9 hostages" bloodline carrier, then incorporate tanistry after 2 gens into my empire. All Offensive pagans also gain a +30% bonus to their levy sizes, making up for likely lower technology and smaller fort holdings. Levy size bonus from unreformed Aztec faith will be lost. If allowed to spread their religion, they will in time ask the ruler to convert. We also get your email address to automatically create an account for you in our website. I agree with most of what you said but I would put the Civilised doctrine as tier 1. Independent lieges of this religion can construct, Religion is resistant to proselytizing + Stability, Fleet can navigate through major rivers, but maintenance cost remains full + Stability, Religion is resistant to proselytizing. And to mission religion and spreading extra religion bug ) fame and for. 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